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THE COMMUNITY’S RESPONSE TO COUNCILLOR BRETT

THE COMMUNITY’S RESPONSE TO COUNCILLOR BRETT

Richard Brett

On the 11th September, Lib Dem leader of the council Richard Brett, had a letter in the Yorkshire Evening Post on the barbeque proposal. In it, he justified the Executive Board’s decision to proceed with the scheme on the grounds that a park should be for all to use, and that Woodhouse Moor should be treated no differently to parks at Otley and Wetherby which already have barbeque areas; and he pledged that he’ll “go back to the drawing board” if the barbeque area is a failure.

The five local community associations responded to Councillor Brett on the 18th September by pointing out that the Executive Board’s decision favours one group of people at the expense of several others, in particular, those with breathing disorders, and that the only measure that will deal with anti-social behaviour, is enforcement of the byelaws.

There was then a letter from Headingley resident Tony Green on the 24th September which made clear to Councillor Brett that the parks at Otley and Wetherby are not comparable to Woodhouse Moor, and that there has already been an unsuccessful trial barbeque area in 2006. Tony asked Councillor Brett why he doesn’t simply follow the example of Lambeth and save us all a lot of money.

Next came a letter on the 26th September from North Hyde Park resident Ann Massa who said that she is surprised that Councillor Brett should present a return to the drawing board as a concession, as it’s no more than what one would expect to happen when a scheme fails.  Ann also questioned the validity of treating the Moor in the same way as Otley Chevin and the park at Wetherby.

(photo courtesy of Yorkshire Post Newspapers)

COUNCILLOR MICK LYONS O.B.E.

COUNCILLOR MICK LYONS O.B.E.

MIck Lyons

This is what Councillor Mick Lyons (Labour) said to Councillor John Procter (Conservative) at the Scrutiny Board meeting that took place on the 16th September (Councillor Procter is the councillor with responsibility for Parks and Countryside) :

For many years I lived within walking distance of this park and considered it to be a lung in a densely populated area. When I went there, there were no barbeques. We’d picnics. John says about Wetherby and Otley. But they’re not in the centre. Woodhouse Moor is in an inner city neighbourhood. Why weren’t the byelaws used when complaints started in which case this problem would have been dealt with. Why will it work when people who live there say it won’t work. And why should students stop other people from using the park ? Will there be designated barbeque areas all over the city ? We’ve a beautiful park at Temple Newsam and I don’t want it spoilt by barbeques. I don’t want kids coughing and spluttering. If this is a trial, is it going to happen all over ? If they couldn’t prevent it before – how will they now when they’ve less money ? Will they take resources from other areas, other parks ? Are we going to have them elsewhere, and how are we going to police them ? And where’s the money coming from ?

If we’re talking about putting a designated area in one park, the fear is that one will also be put at Roundhay, Morley and Temple Newsam. They’ll say what’s good enough at Woodhouse is good enough for the rest of the city. If it goes forward here, it leaves it wide open.

OUTRAGED RESIDENTS WRITE TO THE YEP

OUTRAGED RESIDENTS WRITE TO THE YEP

Yorkshire Post Building

On the 14th August, there was a letter from Headingley resident Luke Blumler saying, like so many of us, that he never received a survey form, and pointing out that if it’s too hard to police an outright ban, that it will be equally impossible to police a ban outside the designated area. On the 31st August, there were letters from Helen Graham, Christopher Todd, Tony Green and Maureen Kershaw. Helen pointed out that it’s ridiculous for the council to say it would be too hard to police a ban, when it’s never tried. Christopher Todd wondered if the council will assess the success of its trial barbeque area by the number of branches pulled off trees. Tony Green made clear that if the byelaws aren’t being policed, it must be because the council doesn’t want them to be policed. And Maureen Kershaw asked why the Lib Dems treat barbequing on the Moor as if it’s some kind of fundamental human right. On the 21st August, there were letters from the five local community groups and local resident Janet Bailey. The community groups were making a last minute plea for the council to drop the scheme, and Janet in her letter warned the Lib Dems that what they are doing will not win them the student vote. In a letter that was published on the 22nd August, Kathleen Mason pointed out the health dangers associated with barbeque smoke, and said that enforcement is the only way to deal with the problem. On the 3rd September, Janet Bailey had a letter published arguing that it’s wrong that the Lib Dems have made barbeques on the Moor a party political issue requiring that all Lib Dem councillors toe the party line. On the 7th September, there were letters from Alan Slomson and Tony Schofield. Alan asked when the council last tried to enforce the existing byelaws, and Tony Schofield from Pudsey said that the way that councillors are ignoring residents on the barbeque issue will determine how he votes in May 2010. Then on the 10th September, there was a letter from me replying to one that had been sent out to residents by the Headingley Lib Dem councillors.

THE PLEA THAT FELL ON DEAF EARS

THE PLEA THAT FELL ON DEAF EARS

The local community

On the 21st August, the Yorkshire Evening Post published the following last minute plea from local community associations for the council to abandon its plan to create a barbeque area on Woodhouse Moor :

It is now over 5 months since Leeds City Council launched its plan to concrete part of Woodhouse Moor to create a barbeque area. This would install 40 large concrete blocks in the Moor at a cost of £20,000 and scrap the byelaw banning fires in a section of the park right next to the children’s playground and nearest people’s homes.

We are grateful to the YEP for its fair and balanced airing of the issues. However we now understand that the Council is about to announce its decision. We understand many YEP readers must wonder what all the fuss is about.

It’s very simple really. We love our park.

Woodhouse Moor, the city’s first public park, is a gift that one generation passes onto another. As the community most deprived of greenspace in Leeds we need a way to share this space with everyone. The Moor should be safe for dog walkers, joggers, picnickers, allotment holders, team sports, wildlife and young mums with a push-chair. It should not be an area where the selfish minority hold sway.

The scale of the vandalism we have witnessed both this summer and last is ruining the park for everyone. The litter, destroyed benches and picnic tables, bonfires, branch ripping, allotment raiding, drug taking, smashed glass, burned metal, noise, graffiti and tons and tons of dumped rubbish are not sustainable.

We have no confidence in the Council’s consultation exercise which has been a farce and fraud from the beginning.

We therefore ask the Council at the eleventh hour to safeguard this green treasure for all and not to appease vandalism with £20,000 of concrete and a turned blind eye.

As we now know, the community’s plea fell on deaf ears. I suppose it was too much to hope that the council would drop the plan now after going to the trouble of (1) excluding the community from the multi-agency meeting that gave rise to the plan, (2) changing the city’s byelaws to make barbeque areas possible, and (3) organising a biased consultation – all apparently so the plan could go ahead.

BERNARD ATHA’S ADDRESS TO THE FULL COUNCIL

BERNARD ATHA’S ADDRESS TO THE FULL COUNCIL

Bernard Atha

When the full council met this afternoon, Councillor Bernard Atha gave the following address setting out his views on the council’s plan to establish a designated barbeque area on Woodhouse Moor :

There is immense opposition from the local community to barbeques on Woodhouse Moor.  This is the fourth major attack on the Moor by the Lib Dems.  When they first came into power, they tried to turn part of Woodhouse Moor into a car park for the university.  Then they wanted to make a large part of it into soccer pitches for the university.  Then they were wanting to widen the A660 at the point where it crosses the Moor, the widest stretch of the road between the city centre and West Park. The fourth major attack is barbeques.  It’s important to protect the Moor, and so let’s not allow them to take away a piece of the park like a burglar.

They say they’re allowing just one area for barbeques. But this will have no effect unless it’s policed. If they can’t police the existing byelaw banning barbeques, how will they do it when it’s restricted to a small area ?  We’re told it’s not going to be concrete.  Have they found grass that doesn’t burn ?  Where is it going to be ?  How will it be demarcated ?

The police have said that they’ll cooperate if we enforce the bylaws. Well then, let’s enforce the byelaws.  Only a handful of prosecutions in the courts would be necessary .

Woodhouse Moor is valuable.  It’s sacred to some people.  Let’s do away with barbeques on it, enforce the byelaws and it will all be sorted out by next year.

LAMBETH COUNCILLOR RUTH LING ON HOW LAMBETH DEALT WITH A SIMILAR PROBLEM ON CLAPHAM COMMON

LAMBETH COUNCILLOR RUTH LING ON HOW LAMBETH DEALT WITH A SIMILAR PROBLEM ON CLAPHAM COMMON

Councillor Ruth Ling from Lambeth

Commenting on the decision by Lib Dem and Conservative councillors on Leeds City Council’s Exective Board to ignore the wishes of local residents and proceed with a scheme to create barbque areas on Woodhouse Moor, Lambeth councillor Ruth Ling explains how two years ago, Lambeth Council dealt with a similar problem on Clapham Common:

“This decision is a great shame, and very short-sighted. Barbecues do a great deal of harm to the park (or Moor) where they are lit, create a very unpleasant smoky atmosphere for other park users and invariably lead to bones and other food waste being left lying around, which attract rats.

“Although I grew up in Leeds (Ash Grove, Hyde Park), went to school in Headingley, and used to walk across Woodhouse Moor every day to Jacob Kramer Art College and later to my job at Leeds Playhouse, sadly I have been exiled in London for many years. For the past 15 years, I have been a councillor for Clapham Common, where we successfully banned barbecues a couple of years ago without any fuss. I have never received one complaint from anyone unhappy about the decision, nor have I ever heard from any resident of any incidence of the bye-laws being flouted (and we have some extremely active and vocal local amenity groups including the Clapham Society, Friends of Clapham Common and the Clapham Common Management Advisory Committee). Admittedly, we have park rangers to enforce the ban (though the Common is more than three times larger than Woodhouse Moor, at 88 hectares) but I think the real enforcement comes in the £500 fine, which is hefty enough to act as a deterrent.

“For the large Council estates facing onto and close by the Common, this lovely green space is their front garden, and it is always packed on sunny days. Yet people seem happy to take picnics with them, and to eat cold food — there is no need to eat hot food on a warm day! And I think the thousands of people who pack on to the Common on sunny days really appreciate not being smoked out by the few.

“I really hope that Leeds City Council reconsiders its decision and that the Moor is left barbecue-free for the greater enjoyment of the majority. But please sort out the litter problem! Every time I visit my old stamping grounds (as I will this weekend for Carnival), I am shocked at the mess on the Moor. Good luck.”

If only we had a councillor like Ruth here.

A CALL FOR STRONG LEADERSHIP

A CALL FOR STRONG LEADERSHIP

Keith Wakefield

The leader of the Labour group is calling for Leeds City Council to take action against those who damage the park through their anti social behaviour. In a letter to the Yorkshire Evening Post, Councillor Wakefield says that the council’s proposal to legalise barbeques sends out the wrong message. The council is effectively saying to potential lawbreakers that Leeds City Council will reward them by changing the law to make their activities legal.  Councillor Wakefield is calling for there to be strong leadership on the issue of barbeques, and for the existing byelaws to be enforced.

A CALL FROM THE YEP FOR £500 FINES

A CALL FROM THE YEP FOR £500 FINES

A notice on Clapham Common

In a Yorkshire Evening Post editorial, the newspaper has said that the damage being caused by barbeques to the Moor cannot be tolerated any longer. The paper is calling for £500 fines to be imposed on people who have barbeques on the Moor in the same way that people in Lambeth are fined if they have a barbeque in one of the parks down there. Apparently, Lambeth no longer has a barbeque problem in its parks as a result of adopting this policy. The YEP editorial says that the Lambeth approach to the problem is supported by former Labour councillor Gerry Harper. In a separate article in the same edition of the newspaper, Mr Harper says that if it works in Lambeth, there’s no reason why it shouldn’t work here.

MORE LETTERS ABOUT THE BARBEQUE PROPOSAL

MORE LETTERS ABOUT THE BARBEQUE PROPOSAL

Yorkshire Post Building

There have been several more letters complaining about the barbeque consultation. On the 28th July, there was a letter from Robin Melia and Shirley Graham giving numerous reasons why barbeques are a bad idea on the Moor and pointing out that the park is for everyone, and not just the selfish minority who abuse it. Robin and Shirley make clear in their letter that neither they nor anyone they know received a consultation form. Stanley Lewis had a letter published on the 3rd August charging the council with a lack of respect for residents and pointing out that it’s not just the byelaws that they’re not enforcing – they’re not enforcing the DPPO either. Then on the 6th August, there were letters from Mel Rose and Keith Wakefield. Mel was asking for some clear thinking on this issue and pointing out we already have a solution to the problem – the existing byelaws. Councillor Wakefield in his letter calls for strong leadership and enforcement of the byelaws.

A VERY BAD IDEA

A VERY BAD IDEA

Hilary Benn MP

In the face of Leeds City Council’s apparent determination to proceed with its proposal for barbeque areas on Woodhouse Moor, Member of Parliament for Leeds Central Hilary Benn today released for publication a letter he sent over two months ago to Leeds City Council’s Chief Executive setting out his reasons for opposing the scheme, and saying that that enforcement of the existing barbeque ban is the better option. Here is the text of Mr Benn’s letter.

“I am writing in response to the consultation I understand is taking place as to whether concrete blocks should be put in the grass to allow barbeques to be held on the Moor.

I think this would be a very bad idea and I do not support it. Having spent the best part of an hour having a look at the damage that barbequing and bigger fires have done to the grass, I can see the problem the proposal seeks to address, but I think the better solution would simply to say that public parks are not for barbeques.

I think there are a number of reasons why this would be the right approach. Firstly, the barbeques that are taking place currently have done damage to the grass and it is by no means certain that those responsible would use the blocks as opposed to carrying on with what they are doing at the moment. Secondly, there have been occasions – as you will be aware – when these have turned into large scale events with all night drinking, some vandalism, and large bonfires which put other users of the park off. There have even been a couple of examples where sound systems have been set up in the park and as well as burning to the grass a lot of broken glass and bottle tops have been found on the surface, along with rubbish being dumped.

It seems to me that in addition to not proceeding with this proposal, there is a question of enforcement of reasonable activity in the park and I would be very grateful if you could set out what the plan is for dealing with this”.